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Thursday, March 3, 2016

Never ending argument. Creation V Evolution by Geoff Thompson

Giant termite mound. Northern Territory. A masterpiece of design.

The title is a bit misleading because the argument for us all ends just after we pass from this life to the next.

Then we will be very much aware of our Creator.

Much is written in Science journals and Christian apologists books about this subject.

From both camps it is a fascinating study and occasionally people change camps depending on persuasive argument and when moving to the Christian position I believe the Holy Spirit plays a part in that.

Faith v Science are really two different disciplines.

Science is based on examining this world,fossils,dna, geography etc.

Faith is based on the Bible.

I believe there is knowledge in the Bible that has also been uncovered by science.

Scientific knowledge usually begins with a Hypothesis and scientists then search for physical evidence to back it up.

A generally agreed paradigm is what transpires if evidence is good and overwhelming and very demonstrable.

The Law of Gravity is a generally universally agreed Paradigm.

Christians should have no problem with that bit of science.

Evolutionists come with those who have different theories as to how evolution works.

Non Christian scientists usually are working on an overall paradigm that evolution happened somehow but they can differ on the mechanics of it.

Christians who feel their faith being threatened by scientific discovery usually read as much as they can to make sure they are in the right camp.

Much has been written to help that cause and many Christian organisations exist to this end.

For the Christian it really comes down to whether they believe the Bible or not.

A passage where you could end the whole angst about this subject is the first 3 verses of Hebrews 11.

In particular verse 3.

Hebrews 11:1Now faith is a well-grounded assurance of that for which we hope, and a conviction of the reality of things which we do not see.
Hebrews 11:2For by it the saints of old won God's approval.
Hebrews 11:3Through faith we understand that the worlds came into being, and still exist, at the command of God, so that what is seen does not owe its existence to that which is visible.   (Weymouth Translation)

"What is seen does not owe its existence to that which is visible"

That means the cause of it all is not of a material nature but spiritual.

In another post on this blog about counselling my mentor and former Pastor Frank Hunting pointed out something quiet profound and important about counselling and psychology.

It is in a similar vein to that just quoted from Hebrews 11:3.

(Note:There is no agreed paradigm on psychology)

"However, counselling such as is everywhere being offered to people in need or in crisis has, no matter how good and wise it may be , an inbuilt weakness. It is humanistically based. It is the study of man by man. It is man trying to help man. This follows the advice given by Alexander Pope: “Know then  thyself, presume not God to scan. The proper study of man is man.” The proper study of man is man ,and that confines us to all the limitations and inadequacies of human beings. And this is not good enough."

This idea of Pope's also violates the position of Hebrews 11:3

Psychology needs to look to the creator, not the created.

So does the science of origins.

When we want to trouble shoot an appliance we go the manufacturer's manual.

My opinion is that scientific discovery can certainly verify the possibility of the existence of the creator but never prove there is a creator.

Proof comes through faith and faith comes by hearing the word of God.

Nor can science disprove there is a creator God.

If we want to understand our existence and the world around us we should look to our manufacturer.

I hope if you are reading this you can get my drift.

If you do then you need to ask yourself how reliable is the Bible?

Is it really the word of God?

The evidence for this when studied objectively is overwhelming.


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  2. I have replied by email steve. thanks for your comments.